[H2P] 7.2.5 Legion Shadow Guide

[Melgane]

I would probably take a bit out of haste and go into crit, assuming that you have the belt and sephuz.

If you don't have those legendaries, you can definitely keep your haste where it is though.

[Vishea]

Hi fellow priests,
I am currently at 39% haste, 27% crit and 53% mastery with the t19 2p and t20 4p.
I do have 2 questions :
What is a good number of VF stacks on average ? Around 50 or more ?
As I read the FAQ they were some indication about dropping the t19 4p but I couldn't find for the 2p. Is there a guideline for keeping it or changing it for haste/crit gear ?

Thanks for the guide and the answers to come !

[LaChoz]

Hi fellow priests,
I am currently at 39% haste, 27% crit and 53% mastery with the t19 2p and t20 4p.
I do have 2 questions :
What is a good number of VF stacks on average ? Around 50 or more ?
As I read the FAQ they were some indication about dropping the t19 4p but I couldn't find for the 2p. Is there a guideline for keeping it or changing it for haste/crit gear ?

Thanks for the guide and the answers to come !

dropping T19-2p, in my opinion, depends on the ilvl gap with the new item dropped.
I only have 890/895 ilvl T19-2p and I dropped it for 915/925 ilvl gear and I think it benefits me way more than the T19-2p bonus !

With T20-4p and no T19, 917ilvl, 35% crit, 13k haste and sephuz/belt I regularly achieve 50+ stacks on heavy movement bosses and mindbender.
In your situation I would try to switch a bit of mastery for more crit.

[Dexter]

Hi fellow priests,
I am currently at 39% haste, 27% crit and 53% mastery with the t19 2p and t20 4p.
I do have 2 questions :
What is a good number of VF stacks on average ? Around 50 or more ?
As I read the FAQ they were some indication about dropping the t19 4p but I couldn't find for the 2p. Is there a guideline for keeping it or changing it for haste/crit gear ?

Thanks for the guide and the answers to come !

dropping T19-2p, in my opinion, depends on the ilvl gap with the new item dropped.
I only have 890/895 ilvl T19-2p and I dropped it for 915/925 ilvl gear and I think it benefits me way more than the T19-2p bonus !

With T20-4p and no T19, 917ilvl, 35% crit, 13k haste and sephuz/belt I regularly achieve 50+ stacks on heavy movement bosses and mindbender.
In your situation I would try to switch a bit of mastery for more crit.

Same for me 50 is normal on heavy movment, if I can stand still (rarely tho) it sometimes goes to 55-57.

[Chickenwing]

I am just wondering, do the time to cast mindbender ever change? like for example if it's BL on pull is it worth holding on to it later, and if you have legendary shoulders should u use it 2 stacks later?

[LaChoz]

I am just wondering, do the time to cast mindbender ever change? like for example if it's BL on pull is it worth holding on to it later, and if you have legendary shoulders should u use it 2 stacks later?

there is no cast time for bender ... Maybe you mean "duration", then no the duration is not influenced by BL, but the attack speed of the bender itself is modified by your own haste and BL.

As to whether or not you should cast bender on BL at pull for example, I would say no, keep it till as late as possible in your first VF to be able to reach 60+ stacks, still worth it !

[Chickenwing]

I am just wondering, do the time to cast mindbender ever change? like for example if it's BL on pull is it worth holding on to it later, and if you have legendary shoulders should u use it 2 stacks later?

there is no cast time for bender ... Maybe you mean "duration", then no the duration is not influenced by BL, but the attack speed of the bender itself is modified by your own haste and BL.

As to whether or not you should cast bender on BL at pull for example, I would say no, keep it till as late as possible in your first VF to be able to reach 60+ stacks, still worth it !

No I meant stacks to cast mindbender is at 30 stacks, does it change with BL and we cast it a bit later to get a longer voidform or do we just always want to cast at 30 to keep the rotation fluent, also the same thing with shoulders since u get 2 free stacks of voidform with legendary shoulders do you instead start casting it at 32 stacks or do you still cast it at 30 stacks.

[Melgane]

I sometimes cast bender later due to hero, but it's actually more dependent on tentacle procs than it is hero. Then again, sometimes I'm just lazy and always cast it at 30.

You do you boo boo.

[Melgane]

I sometimes cast bender later due to hero, but it's actually more dependent on tentacle procs than it is hero. Then again, sometimes I'm just lazy and always cast it at 30.

You do you boo boo.

[beefeetr]

Any advice for what to do when MB and VoiT get desynced? Is it better to just hold onto a MB until it's 30s after a VoiT?